they want o make sure that science and engineers that are educated here in america or that have great ideas and want to be in america have a chance to come here. that has been difficult over the years. that is something that can get done, but i think they will run into some opposition because people who want a more comprehensive bill that would deal with farm labor, for example, they are worried that if you get that one bill done that helps the business community with the smartest and brightest immigrants, that you won't be dealing with everybody and i think that that will be the rub. >> steve: kay bailey hutchison has got legislation in the senate. we'll see if anything happens there. apparently at the white house yesterday, some blogger was standing this and said hey, look there, goes rachel madow. and then, hey, it's al sharpton. there goes -- what were all the msnbc guys doing at the white house? apparently they were invited by the white house to talk about what the president's pitch is regarding the fiscal cliff. he's been adamant, the top 2% have to pay a higher tax rate and app